Re: My two percent on SmokeRat's furry wish

From: nehumanuscrede <nehumanuscrede_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 04:33:19 -0000

We seem to value your opinions almost as much as you value ours.


There is no way to prove either side, so further argument is quite
pointless. Kinda like religion.


 


--- In SkunkworksAMA_at_y..., Saous_at_A... wrote:
> And in reply.
>
> ****For now. This is based on our current rate of discovery. A
> decade from now these numbers may change dramatically. The advent
of
> the Quantum computer will take number crunching to a whole new
level,
> which are unheard of by todays standards.****
>
>
> A.) Do you actually know anything about genetic information or DNA
> structuring? The concept of chromosomes and the sheer process of
organizing
> data? It's not number crunching, it's all compiled by hand. Each
individual
> nucleotide must be tested, and then ordered to discover in which
chromosome
> it acts as which type of indicator. There is no computer program
possible
> for analyzing until we have a prototype graph. And since this
graph has to
> be done on each individual species of creature, and for every case
of
> disorder or imperfection, no great technological advance will
prevent us from
> doing it the slow and tedious way of manual discovery. Quit living
in a
> world of science fiction, not everything is as simple as you can
make it out
> to be. Learn first, speak second.
>
> ****Again, based on today's technology. As the tech tree continues
> to grow, our ideas expand out with it. Think of the sheer number
> manipulation and calculation of one of our recent inventions. The
> Hydrogen Bomb. An impossible concept, until technology made it a
> reality. The genetic experiments have already begun. I believe a
> Rhesus monkey was given jellyfish genes not too long ago. The
result
> of that experiment was a monkey that glowed in the dark. Small
> steps. . . . but that's how it starts. :) ****
>
> B.) The hydrogen bomb was neither advanced nor intellectually
stimulating.
> Someone saw the Hidenburg explode and thought "weapon". There is
no great
> value of advanced science, simply calculated and timed chemistry.
The fact
> that we have a need for a hydrogen bomb only again proves our
mental
> simplicities for war. Also, yes, the small DNA strand to produce
the
> singular protein that caused jellyfish to glow was given to a
monkey. But,
> also. The fact remains it was an indeterminate and uncontrolled
experiment.
> Luck was simply with the monkey, that the protein didn't interfere
with some
> unknown catalyzing affect on the system that would have caused it
harm. The
> act of altering our protein production is risky business.
>
>
>
> ****That's the way things work. Take a theory, test it, tweak it,
> test it again. Repeat until it's a workable solution. Fact is,
> human test subjects are needed in order to create a useable end
> product. Nothing else has the genetic makeup of the human animal.
Of
> course, once we have mapped the human genetic code, we can run
> simulations (remember those speedy computers I mentioned)? that
> will give us an idea of how it will turn out. The real results
won't
> happen until a real live test subject steps up to the plate and
> says, " Let's do this. . . "
>
> Those who volunteer for this "testing" understand the possible
> negative outcome of the experiment. They believe, however, that
the
> possible rewards far outweigh the risks. . . . . ****
>
>
> C.) Again, wrong, and arrogant. No simulation can be done to
summarize the
> entire human race. Each individual has certain encoding that
differs in
> strength and productivity. And, again, you know nothing of
genetics.
> Changing your Genetic Makeup won't suddenly change you. It will
simply allow
> for the production of a certain protein. That protein will then
take affect.
> It could never seriously change the physical makeup of an
individuals body.
> Not unless the procedure was conducted at the embryonic stages of
> development.
>
>
> - Lets wrap this up. It's both off topic and rather unnecessary.
I don't
> feel the need to either argue or educate anyone about their mislead
beliefs.
> Feel free to continue this conversation in private. But count me
out.
>
> Justin
Received on Sun Oct 20 2002 - 02:42:27 CDT

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