Re: [SkunkworksAMA] Re: Furry art money drying up?

From: Iller Hulbert <iller_at_protgp.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 15:53:19 -0700

Interesting, Thanks for the input.

I think I should note, I'm not trying to start a bitchfest here, just
looking for observations like this one or any that contradict it.

Also if anyone's observed, there always seemed to be a set of buyers
who bid on art like they were quite frankly loaded, seemed the mojority
of quality works had them in their bidding lineup. Does it look like those
collectors are around or has the milk in that cow dried up for good too?
(not that they were cows, but it's rather how they supported the whole
community so much more by keeping prices up)
-Ilr

----- Original Message -----
From: Caleb <cgregory430_at_yahoo.com>
To: <SkunkworksAMA_at_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 5:02 PM
Subject: [SkunkworksAMA] Re: Furry art money drying up?


> Well; basically: Of the few people I know that actually claim to make
> a living off furry art a lot of them are on unemployment or
> disability. That's not to claim Jim is....just that seems to be the
> norm. Or; they have part times jobs to make up the rest.
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong; but I don't really think there's anyone in
> the fandom that completely supports themselves off of their art.
> Granted; there are some exceptions: Herbie Bearclaw Hamill works for
> Disney and to this day makes a great deal off his art. There's an
> artist or two that work professionally as graphic designers and do
> furry art on the side. But I don't know of anyone who actually
> completely supports themselves off of furry art by itself.
>
> As far as art customers; many of us have jobs and live out on our
> own. I'm a mechanic, there's military personnel in our midst, there's
> all walks of life buying art and attending conventions. Every
> subculture is gonna have people living in their parents basement at
> 25+ per se.
>
> As far as name recognition; 2 auctioned off a pink pencil a few years
> back for a large sum of money from what I understand, EWS drew a
> stick figure that auctioned off for close to a hundred (I
> think...maybe more...). Name recognition means a great deal.
> Picasso's paintings auction off for millions. Then there are very
> talented people who can't get more than $20 for a masterpiece. The
> important thing is to find an original idea so you can be immediately
> recognised; and start small.
>
> Anyway; that's my observation.
>
> Caleb
>
>
> --- In SkunkworksAMA_at_yahoogroups.com, "Iller Hulbert" <iller_at_p...>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Well, recently a friend of mine was one of the lucky few "picked
> off" by some kind
> > of Michigan childsupport tax/fine-generating witch-hunt and I
> figured, "hey, why not
> > do some freelancing and try to generate another couple hundred for
> the month?" and
> > also since hearing Jim shared my own view on money, as in: "No
> handouts, I earn it",
> > I thought one place to do it would be drawing some of his other
> characters and giving
> > him a respectable perecentage.
> >
> > But uhh, little perusal of Furbid seems to suggest I could generate
> twice the income
> > digging ditches or sacking, and I've already got a part-time job
> that pays twice that
> > and is a hell of a lot more enjoyable. So what's the deal?
> Unique talent and technical
> > ability that makes me over-qualified for my higher-paying part-time
> job would be just
> > barely enough to earn me a 75% paycut if I went for Professional
> Artist in this Genre?
> >
> > I see pieces that look like they took 5-10 hours going for $5, and
> that's just the cream
> > of the crop that actually has a bid on it. What's goin on in this
> neck of the woods?
> > Does everyone live jobless in their parent's basement and buy furry
> art with their
> > Grandma's 10-spot every birthday? Is it "the economy stupid!" ?
> Is it only name
> > recognition that counts for anything and unless I'm Jim himself, I
> couldn't generate
> > enough profit to pay for shipping to send him his "cut"?
> >
> > So, I'm already looking somewhere else besides this genre to
> generate quick cash,
> > but can anyone give me a reason or example to look back this way
> again? Nitty
> > gritty... I make 10.5 per hour at my part-time job... Is there
> something I overlooked
> > here that could get Us even HALF of that here?
> >
> >
> > And don't anyone pass me off as some gold-diggin layabout,
> obviously my time is
> > money and there's not a damned thing wrong good business
> practice....That means
> > there's no reason to turn it back into a charity case for everyone
> else out there who's
> > buying if Jim's not even getting or taking charity here.
>
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