--- In SkunkworksAMA_at_yahoogroups.com, "foxiekins" <Foxiekins_at_a...>
wrote:
>> You're forgetting something... There are "two" male threads...
The
> older male, who listens to his younger self's sob story about
having
> been female, knocked up, and having the baby stolen... And then
> promptly takes his younger male self back in time, and gives him
wads
> of pocket money, to do the knocking up... He then collects the
baby,
> drops her off at the orphanage in the past, and then collects his
> younger male self, explains the situation, and drops him off at
the
> Temporal Corp Academy... The younger male thread is ignorant of
all
> of this, until it is explained to him...
>
> This is where the illusion of "No Free Will" comes from...
Everyone
> involved had free will, it's just that the older male version gets
to
> see everyone else's choices before he makes his... He, however,
> really *doesn't* have free will in a sense, because he's trapped
in a
> positive feedback temporal incident...
>
> You see, everyone focuses on negative feedback paradoxes... "I
shoot
> my grandfather, therefore how can I exist to shoot him...?"
Hardly
> anyone looks at the positive feedback ones... Yet those are the
> logically consistent ones... Either way the decision could go is
> stable and self-reinforcing... The older male can act the way he
> does, and ensure he exists, and therefore he exists to do it...
Or,
> he can refrain from doing so, cease to exist, and there is still
no
> paradox, as there is no one to take those actions, and no one for
> them to be done to... Metastable...
>
> ::listening for the sounds of more brains popping::
Ah, but each event in a subject's life which requires a decision
to be made can, in turn, spawn a different reality. If a guy goes
back in time to shoot his grandpa ("There! Now I won't hafta listen
to your war stories while I'm growing up!" BLAM!), that would only
affect the flow of events in _that_ reality. The shooter could not
go back in his own time to shoot his grandpa, because the sequence
of events that occurred to create him already took place. But, he
can go back to the desired moment and still pop his grandad, without
having to fear for his own continued existence. Of course, the
version of him in _that_ reality would perhaps grow up differently,
having no grandfather, but that still would not affect the shooter.
Since reality is essentially based on one's perceptions, that
means there may be millions of realities in existence, but we can
only see the one we are in. Think of each reality as a similar, but
slightly different movie, each one playing at the same time, and all
on the same screen. To an outsider, it would look like a garbled
mess. However, to those in the films, it is clean and clear,
because they are unable to see the other films. They see, and know,
only their own.
And, oddly enough, this sort of discussion has a LOT to do with
Onika and the "hidden site" (which is actually the site for an
encompassing story tying lots of shit together).
Brain...smoking...smells like...eggs...
--JMH, as always, trying to overcomplicate things. Hey, it's what I
do!
Received on Sun Apr 25 2004 - 10:50:44 CDT