On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Rick Pikul<rwpikul_at_sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On Sunday 09 August 2009 01:22, Zach Collins (Siege) wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Rick Pikul<rwpikul_at_sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> > On Wednesday 05 August 2009 13:30, Zach Collins (Siege) wrote:
>> >> If you're looking for any excuse at all
>> >> to debunk it, then you'll find one. If you come in demanding absolute
>> >> proof under the presumption that it's all bullshit, then no proof you
>> >> get will be sufficient.
>> >
>> > OTOH, those wanting to see things can treat anything unusual or not
>> > immediately explained as proof.
>> >
>> > The standards for evidence I've seen from "sensitives" is, quite frankly,
>> > pathetic. It gets even worse once you start removing the "evidence" that
>> > is purely based on circular logic.
>>
>> Standard of evidence. Well. I'll say that Paranormal State is about
>> the best evidence (I've seen) that you'll get without direct
>> experience.
>
> As I was saying: Pathetic, and mostly circular reasoning.
>
>> The psychics they bring in come in blind, knowing nothing
>> about the situation until they've already got their "read".
>
> They claim that, but it was revealed last year, (ironically by a believer),
> that their 'phychic' actually knows all the background information
> beforehand. Also revealed was active faking of results, such as 'cold spots'
> actually caused by a cold can of beer brought in by the PRS team themselves.
I believe Ms. Belanger's claims that no information is given until she
arrives on site and performs a cold read. Also, my own reactions and
experiences with such things closely echo those shown (essentially,
illnesses and obsessions radiating from such entities are experienced
directly by those who are open or susceptible to such things).
As for the "beer can haunting", I haven't seen that PRS uses
thermographic cameras, just the near infrared "night vision" filters.
Which episode was this, and how was the cold spot presented on camera?
I'd like to watch that one, myself to compare to other episodes.
--
Zach Collins
"If code can be speech, then software can be art."
Received on Sun Aug 09 2009 - 18:49:09 CDT