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On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:52 PM, MiguelM <my.resistance_at_gmail.com> wrote:
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> --- In SkunkworksAMA_at_yahoogroups.com <SkunkworksAMA%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "chrysaetos_at_..." <chrysaetos_at_...> wrote:
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> > Nate wrote:
> > > Mmmmmm, gauss rifles. *drool* That would be so perfect for a sniper. No
> report, no muzzle flash to give away your position, next to no recoil. Not
> even a heat signature from a hot barrel to give it away. I want one!
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> > That doesn't add up, physically speaking. Assuming you're talking about
> > a hypersonic railgun/coilgun, it would have a report in the form of the
> > bullet's sonic boom. Granted, that makes it hard to localize for a
> > human ear, but there is currently in service at least one sniper
> > detection/location device that uses a set of microphones to track the
> > path of a supersonic slug -- which is to say, hard for a human ear, easy
> > for a computer. There would certainly be recoil. If you're
> > accelerating a physical object, there's no way to escape the equal and
> > opposite force. The heat signature would depend entirely on the
> > efficiency of the magnets and such used to fire. This device has to
> > deliver an enormous amount of energy to the slug very quickly to
> > accelerate it from zero to hypersonic in the space of a meter or so;
> > that means its efficiency will be pretty lousy, and the magnets will
> > heat up quite a bit with each shot. In an honest-to-god sniper rifle,
> > it would probably need a supply of cryogenic coolant to keep the magnets
> > superconductive and get rid of the waste heat from each shot. With
> > modern technology, gunpowder -- chemical energy in any form, that is --
> > is the most efficient and compact way to store energy. Assuming
> > "sufficiently advanced" technology like room-temp superconductors and
> > arbitrarily compact energy storage, you can get away with more.
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> > Finally, keep in mind that a "needle gun" will tend to punch through an
> > unarmored body without doing much damage. A heavy subsonic lead bullet
> > is far more effective at killing an unarmored target than a small, fast
> > round with equal kinetic energy. A small, fast penetrator is effective
> > at passing through armor without delivering its energy, but it's equally
> > good at passing through the target without doing so either.
> > Alternatives:
> > -You could use a charged needle. If you just used the needle to deliver
> > a powerful electrical jolt, a small explosive charge, or some other
> > unpleasant payload, you don't care what it does after it hits. You're
> > relying on the payload to do the damage. (Poison isn't a good choice,
> > because it'll tend to burn off from atmospheric friction and the needle
> > would tend to sear its own wound.)
> > -You could use something akin to a modern API round. It's a regular
> > bullet made of soft metal with a hard penetrator in the center. Against
> > flesh, it works like a regular bullet. Against armor, the soft metal
> > stops and the penetrator continues on through, after heating up to
> > ungodly temperature from the friction of having the lead coat stripped
> > off. It won't hurt an armored target as much as the bullet would an
> > unarmored one, but they'll know they've been kissed, so to speak.
> > -Taking a page from modern antiarmor weapons, you could equip the bullet
> > with a tandem warhead. Imagine a bullet shaped like a milk bottle. The
> > body of the bottle is your regular bullet, which is a hollow-point or
> > fragmenting design intended to deliver maximum energy in minimum
> > distance. Normally that would be useless againt the simplest body
> > armor, but the neck and tip of the bottle contain a small charge -- it
> > could be akin to a HEAT explosive, or a tiny one-shot laser generator,
> > or whatever. When the tip of the round strikes, it fires its payload,
> > which clears a path for the next three inches or so. If they have body
> > armor on, the rest of the bullet passes through this cleared channel and
> > hits the guy inside. If they don't, well, the bullet hits them a little
> > deeper than usual.
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> > "Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day,
> > but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest
> > of his life."
> > -- (Terry Pratchett, Jingo)
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