goddamn furries.
oh well.
-Glover aka Ishida
--- sean foltz <cigarskunk_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 12:36:44 -0600
> > From: David Parenteau <kitfox_at_firstlight.net>
> >Subject: RE: Digest Number 1439
>
> > >I take offense to that weasel comment which is an
> obvious species slur
> > >against my being a skunk! Many people think that
> speciesism isn’t
> >anything
> > >that should be taken seriously and think that
> it’s harmless, but it’s not
> >
> > >it deanthosises the anthro using the slur and
> being slurred as well. >_<
> >
> >Eeep? Wow... Conflict...
>
> Speciesism is a serious problem in furry fandom
> today – to refer to a skunk
> as a weasel or a wolf as a dog is very demeaning to
> the fur in question – we
> can’t tolerate specieist behavior, comments or
> slurs. ;)
>
> >"Weasel your way out" refers to the fact that
> weasels are extremely
> >long,>slender, and flexible, thus allowing them to
> fit their entire body
> >through>any opening that they can get their head
> through. This makes
> >them>exceptionally good escape artists, as well as
> lovers. Anybody who
> >has>ferrets in real life knows this. (Especially
> after you find the ferret
> >somehow in an otherwise seemingly-inaccessible
> location).
>
> Yeah, yeah – and all lions are good leaders and all
> crows are good at math –
> specie stereotypes, no matter how positive they
> might be perceived as, are
> still stereotypes.
>
> >Now, skunks on the other hand lack this benefit and
> just stink. At
> >least>certain ones who smoke too much do. The
> sisters themselves may not
> >be>quite as agile as weasels, but that's okay.
>
> WTF?!? Now THAT is an outright speciest remark if I
> ever read one! This
> fur needs some species sensitivity training!
>
> >Well, given my statement about smoking skunks
> stinking, I guess it's a
> >good>thing you're a cigar-smoking badger. ;)
>
> ***sputters***
>
> I will not tolerate comments like that – just
> because we both sport black
> and white fur patterns which are similar does not
> make us an interchangeable
> species – it’s attitudes like this which caused the
> systematic slaughter of
> over 5 million mice half a century ago by the cats.
> O_O
>
> >A lot of people will disagree with this. The
> premise being that
> >"Yiff">does not or should not translate into a
> negative connotation. So
> >in>positive use: "He screwed me until I was singing
> last night! It
> >was>wonderful!", you can replace "screwed" with
> "yiffed". But in
> >negative>sense: "95 down the twisty mountain road.
> Brakes died. Big cliff
> >ahead.>Steering just locked up. Dude. We're
> screwed. (In the background,
> >some
> >porcupine cackles gleefully as he puts away his
> automotive tools)"...
> >Well,>'yiffed' just doesn't work for most people in
> that sense. Less so if
> >you>try to say something like "Yiff you, you
> mother-yiffing yiff-sicle.
> >You're>so yiffing yiffed in the head that your
> yiffing sense of yiffing
> >humor is>yiffed beyond belief!"... REALLY doesn't
> work.
>
> I disagree – first off, you failed to take into
> consideration that your
> analogy fails equally well with the word “screwed”
> replacing the word
> “yiffed” – your so screwing screwed in the head that
> your screwing sense of
> screwing humor is screwed beyond belief – see?
>
> Proper usage and context are key to using the furry
> language – some words
> have full interchangability while others have
> partial interchangability –
> slang and cultural trends will determine when
> something is appropriate. For
> example, my people initially preferred being refered
> to as “black and
> whites” then later that became speciest and we
> preferred being called
> “mephit Americans” but that fell out of vogue and we
> started preferring
> being refered to as “furs or no color” and currently
> we are going with being
> simply called “skunks.”
>
> So as you can see, language is constantly changing,
> evolving and devolving,
> thus while “yiff” might have had a positive only
> connotation, it has since
> changed to give it the flexability to be a positive
> or a negative. If you
> feel resistive to this, recall that originally, yiff
> was simply a greeting
> or expression of pleasure – the sexual activity
> connotation is a slang
> bastardization of the root word.
>
> > >Just wrap me in tobacco leaves and have me
> cremated. : /
> >
> >You know... if it wasn't for the smell that burning
> fur makes...
>
> I should have been more specific – the tobacco
> leaves in question should be
> Honduran maduro long leaves which have been sweated
> and aged at least two
> years, with perhaps a nice Nicaraguan binder – a
> truly heavenly aroma
> combination which is capable of even overcoming and
> masking the stench of a
> fanboy late Sunday afternoon at a convention. :D
> **********
> > Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 18:42:37 -0000
> > From: "Stanley L. Alston, Jr."
> <leoni2_at_juno.com>
> >Subject: Re: Digest Number 1439
>
> >You need to take a chill pill.>First, have a cigar,
> then take>prozak, then
> >say hello to mr.
> >hammer here. ;)
>
> See, this is what I’m talking about, it starts with
> slurs and then leads to
> species violence! O_O
>
> >Not once Des sees it. And I think>her vision was
> 20/20. :P
>
> Yeah, and she’s even more evil then Jim. O_o
>
> > > Yiffed does mean screwed. ;)
> >
> >And a rose still means that you>are in big trouble,
> dude. :P
>
> Ah, a reference to an ancient conspiracy under the
> rose – quite eloquent
> (either that or an attempt at referencing
> Shakespear).
>
> >I rather not. I don't want to catch>the dreaded
> second hand smoke. :P
>
> Pah, first species discrimination and now smoker
> discrimination – when will
> it all end?!? >_<
>
> **********
> > Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 18:55:23 -0000
> > From: "Stanley L. Alston, Jr."
> <leoni2_at_juno.com>
> >Subject: Re: Digest Number 1439
>
> > > Now, skunks on the other hand lack>this benefit
> and just stink. At least
> >certain ones who smoke too much do.
> >
> >I do not know this person. :)
>
> He’s a fellow speciest – don’t you furs all network
> or something? ;)
>
> > > The sisters themselves may not be>quite as agile
> as weasels, but
> >that's>okay.
> >
> >Pray that you never have to find that>out in
> person. :P
>
> CS is happy to say that he’s found the limits of the
> sister’s agility and it
> wasn’t what he’d describe as an unpleasant
> experience. ;)
>
> >Hmm, never thought of that. How good are>porcupines
> at smellin'? :P
>
> Pretty keen olfactory senses if memory serves – a
> certain porcupine I know
> claims that he can smell me as soon as I step into
> the dealer’s den.
>
> > > You know... if it wasn't for the smell>that
> burning fur makes...
> >
> >And I stand behind my second hand smoke>comment. :P
>
> Pah, second hand smoke and first hand discrimination
> – if you let them
> outlaw my cigars today they’ll be coming for your
> claws and quills tomarrow.
> O_O
>
> CS
>
>
>
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