This is.. A joke.. Right?
>From: "sean foltz" <cigarskunk_at_hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: SkunkworksAMA_at_yahoogroups.com
>To: SkunkworksAMA_at_yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [SkunkworksAMA] Speciesism and other problems
>Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 15:39:51 +0000
>
> > Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 12:36:44 -0600
> > From: David Parenteau <kitfox_at_firstlight.net>
> >Subject: RE: Digest Number 1439
>
> > >I take offense to that weasel comment which is an obvious species slur
> > >against my being a skunk! Many people think that speciesism isn’t
> >anything
> > >that should be taken seriously and think that it’s harmless, but it’s
>not
> >
> > >it deanthosises the anthro using the slur and being slurred as well.
> >_<
> >
> >Eeep? Wow... Conflict...
>
>Speciesism is a serious problem in furry fandom today – to refer to a skunk
>as a weasel or a wolf as a dog is very demeaning to the fur in question –
>we
>can’t tolerate specieist behavior, comments or slurs. ;)
>
> >"Weasel your way out" refers to the fact that weasels are extremely
> >long,>slender, and flexible, thus allowing them to fit their entire body
> >through>any opening that they can get their head through. This makes
> >them>exceptionally good escape artists, as well as lovers. Anybody who
> >has>ferrets in real life knows this. (Especially after you find the
>ferret
> >somehow in an otherwise seemingly-inaccessible location).
>
>Yeah, yeah – and all lions are good leaders and all crows are good at math
>–
>specie stereotypes, no matter how positive they might be perceived as, are
>still stereotypes.
>
> >Now, skunks on the other hand lack this benefit and just stink. At
> >least>certain ones who smoke too much do. The sisters themselves may not
> >be>quite as agile as weasels, but that's okay.
>
>WTF?!? Now THAT is an outright speciest remark if I ever read one! This
>fur needs some species sensitivity training!
>
> >Well, given my statement about smoking skunks stinking, I guess it's a
> >good>thing you're a cigar-smoking badger. ;)
>
>***sputters***
>
>I will not tolerate comments like that – just because we both sport black
>and white fur patterns which are similar does not make us an
>interchangeable
>species – it’s attitudes like this which caused the systematic slaughter of
>over 5 million mice half a century ago by the cats. O_O
>
> >A lot of people will disagree with this. The premise being that
> >"Yiff">does not or should not translate into a negative connotation. So
> >in>positive use: "He screwed me until I was singing last night! It
> >was>wonderful!", you can replace "screwed" with "yiffed". But in
> >negative>sense: "95 down the twisty mountain road. Brakes died. Big
>cliff
> >ahead.>Steering just locked up. Dude. We're screwed. (In the background,
> >some
> >porcupine cackles gleefully as he puts away his automotive tools)"...
> >Well,>'yiffed' just doesn't work for most people in that sense. Less so
>if
> >you>try to say something like "Yiff you, you mother-yiffing yiff-sicle.
> >You're>so yiffing yiffed in the head that your yiffing sense of yiffing
> >humor is>yiffed beyond belief!"... REALLY doesn't work.
>
>I disagree – first off, you failed to take into consideration that your
>analogy fails equally well with the word “screwed” replacing the word
>“yiffed” – your so screwing screwed in the head that your screwing sense of
>screwing humor is screwed beyond belief – see?
>
>Proper usage and context are key to using the furry language – some words
>have full interchangability while others have partial interchangability –
>slang and cultural trends will determine when something is appropriate.
>For
>example, my people initially preferred being refered to as “black and
>whites” then later that became speciest and we preferred being called
>“mephit Americans” but that fell out of vogue and we started preferring
>being refered to as “furs or no color” and currently we are going with
>being
>simply called “skunks.”
>
>So as you can see, language is constantly changing, evolving and devolving,
>thus while “yiff” might have had a positive only connotation, it has since
>changed to give it the flexability to be a positive or a negative. If you
>feel resistive to this, recall that originally, yiff was simply a greeting
>or expression of pleasure – the sexual activity connotation is a slang
>bastardization of the root word.
>
> > >Just wrap me in tobacco leaves and have me cremated. : /
> >
> >You know... if it wasn't for the smell that burning fur makes...
>
>I should have been more specific – the tobacco leaves in question should be
>Honduran maduro long leaves which have been sweated and aged at least two
>years, with perhaps a nice Nicaraguan binder – a truly heavenly aroma
>combination which is capable of even overcoming and masking the stench of a
>fanboy late Sunday afternoon at a convention. :D
>**********
> > Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 18:42:37 -0000
> > From: "Stanley L. Alston, Jr." <leoni2_at_juno.com>
> >Subject: Re: Digest Number 1439
>
> >You need to take a chill pill.>First, have a cigar, then take>prozak,
>then
> >say hello to mr.
> >hammer here. ;)
>
>See, this is what I’m talking about, it starts with slurs and then leads to
>species violence! O_O
>
> >Not once Des sees it. And I think>her vision was 20/20. :P
>
>Yeah, and she’s even more evil then Jim. O_o
>
> > > Yiffed does mean screwed. ;)
> >
> >And a rose still means that you>are in big trouble, dude. :P
>
>Ah, a reference to an ancient conspiracy under the rose – quite eloquent
>(either that or an attempt at referencing Shakespear).
>
> >I rather not. I don't want to catch>the dreaded second hand smoke. :P
>
>Pah, first species discrimination and now smoker discrimination – when will
>it all end?!? >_<
>
>**********
> > Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 18:55:23 -0000
> > From: "Stanley L. Alston, Jr." <leoni2_at_juno.com>
> >Subject: Re: Digest Number 1439
>
> > > Now, skunks on the other hand lack>this benefit and just stink. At
>least
> >certain ones who smoke too much do.
> >
> >I do not know this person. :)
>
>He’s a fellow speciest – don’t you furs all network or something? ;)
>
> > > The sisters themselves may not be>quite as agile as weasels, but
> >that's>okay.
> >
> >Pray that you never have to find that>out in person. :P
>
>CS is happy to say that he’s found the limits of the sister’s agility and
>it
>wasn’t what he’d describe as an unpleasant experience. ;)
>
> >Hmm, never thought of that. How good are>porcupines at smellin'? :P
>
>Pretty keen olfactory senses if memory serves – a certain porcupine I know
>claims that he can smell me as soon as I step into the dealer’s den.
>
> > > You know... if it wasn't for the smell>that burning fur makes...
> >
> >And I stand behind my second hand smoke>comment. :P
>
>Pah, second hand smoke and first hand discrimination – if you let them
>outlaw my cigars today they’ll be coming for your claws and quills
>tomarrow.
>O_O
>
>CS
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