Re: [SkunkworksAMA] Re: (C) infringement isn't theft, nor are illegally-obtained digital collections

From: Scott <y_auction956_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 20:30:27 -0700 (PDT)

You can always tell how much someone is trying to scam you by the complications of their speech. It's simple really....
 
An artist creates the work
Said artist charges for the sale of his work
People agree to pay the asking amount for these works
Someone goes and freely distributes (and thus others freely obtain) these works that are supposed to be paid for.
There are now copies of these works floating around that are supposed to be paid for to aquire that other people take.
This is not theft, how?

Whether you can afford it or not is not the point and would never hold up in court. You're arguements are baseless, irrational, and you try to make the pirates and theives out to be the victim. Good day troll.

Narei

--- On Thu, 10/2/08, danleephoto <athiril_at_gmail.com> wrote:

From: danleephoto <athiril_at_gmail.com>
Subject: [SkunkworksAMA] Re: (C) infringement isn't theft, nor are illegally-obtained digital collections
To: SkunkworksAMA_at_yahoogroups.com

Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 9:24 PM






Sorry, but a lot of this is fallacious.

I do not advocate people posting 1:1 print quality reproductions,
never even mentioned it, using that to counter my original argument
doesn't make sense.

People shouldn't post 1:1 print reproductions, you're right, but some
people do.

The people who are downloading the material, either 1:1 reproduction,
or a readable screen display copy only that has water marked, it will
be whichever is more easily accessible, will either be downloading it
because they chanced across it (whether "furry" or not), or they enjoy
the work.

If a person would not pay for something in the first place, for
whatever reason, then it's not a lost sale, I'm not here to argue the
ratio of new people who havent heard of your work or those who didnt
buy anything in the first place vs old customer's stopping paying for
things.

I do think you're complaining, as these are your problems and you need
to find a suitable solution to them instead of making the same
mistakes over, like you said, some dick will always post superscans.

There are a few problems here, Marshall McLuhan was ahead of his time
in his thinking as a media theorist, I suggest you look into his
works, as they will help you.

I never had even heard of Second Ed before, and it appears they do $5
U.S. shipping to international locations, which is ludicrously low,
here in Australia we are used to $40 shipping for the most light
weight orders of anything from the U.S., (and $12 for domestic
internal shipping..) (for example, a particular roll of film here
costs over $20, and another $20 to get developed, this roll of film
costs $4 in the U.S., but getting orders shipped start at $40
shipping, thus need to bulk order with others to make it worth while).

I've only ever seen one of your comics, so I'm not sure what is the
format, but perhap you can post parts of them or a low res format on
your own website just as Second Ed receives them or something? You can
undercut scanners before they have a chance to post anything, if you
make it available directly on your site, people will go there to get
it, and you will have much more control over promotion.

I think you also should look into creating an attractive package (As
in physical package), and give your works a more professional
presentation.

And I know you may not want to hear this part.. but perhaps you can
save the hand drawn work for special editions, or at least produce
extra works completely digitally, using something like painter that
can be shipped to Second Ed for physical reproduction and sale.

It's not easy, but I think market research and better marketing is in
order, if what youre doing now isn't work too well, then continuing to
do exactly the same thing isn't going to work.
Received on Thu Oct 02 2008 - 23:09:00 CDT

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