Re: (C) infringement isn't theft, nor are illegally-obtained digital collections

From: danleephoto <athiril_at_gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:08:00 -0000

What's BTL2?

--- In SkunkworksAMA_at_yahoogroups.com, "xmewxchanx" <xmewxchanx@...> wrote:
>
> Well Jim, it was just a matter of time, BTL2 has been posted on lulz.
>
> However... the scan paper worked beautifully.
>
> Just giving you a head up.
>
>
> ~Stripey~
> ~Furry Art Archiver~
>
>
> --- In SkunkworksAMA_at_yahoogroups.com, "Take a wild, friggin guess"
> <a_change_of_plans_at_> wrote:
> >
> > --- In SkunkworksAMA_at_yahoogroups.com, "danleephoto" <athiril@>
> > wrote:
> > > If a person would not pay for something in the first place, for
> > > whatever reason, then it's not a lost sale, I'm not here to argue
> > the
> > > ratio of new people who havent heard of your work or those who didnt
> > > buy anything in the first place vs old customer's stopping paying
> > for
> > > things.
> >
> > I'm not considering them as a lost sale, but the other people who
> > happen across the scanned work. John Q. Public was thinking of
> > spending X dollars on this folio, but hey, he can get it from an
> > image board for free. Boom. Lost sale. Like I said, man, I've got
> > paperwork backing this claim up.
> >
> >
> > > I've only ever seen one of your comics, so I'm not sure what is the
> > > format, but perhap you can post parts of them or a low res format on
> > > your own website just as Second Ed receives them or something? You
> > can
> > > undercut scanners before they have a chance to post anything, if you
> > > make it available directly on your site, people will go there to get
> > > it, and you will have much more control over promotion.
> >
> > Actually, I think there are several comics in the "Photos" section
> > on the group, though they were not uploaded by me. As for a possible
> > solution to the problem, yeah, I've got a few ideas. I'm just not
> > sure which one to pick yet.
> >
> > >
> > > I think you also should look into creating an attractive package (As
> > > in physical package), and give your works a more professional
> > > presentation.
> >
> > They are cleanly printed on bright white, 28-32 pound laser stock
> > and sealed in acid-free polybags. Not much else you can do with
> > that, man.
> >
> > >
> > > And I know you may not want to hear this part.. but perhaps you can
> > > save the hand drawn work for special editions, or at least produce
> > > extra works completely digitally, using something like painter that
> > > can be shipped to Second Ed for physical reproduction and sale.
> >
> > Uh...you do realize I produce 100% of my artwork by hand, right? I
> > don't use computers in my art. I never have and never will. Call me
> > old-fashioned, but there are very few artists who are still capable
> > of pulling off hand-drawn art these days. Most use computers for
> > speed, efficiency and the ability to correct mistakes. In
> > traditional media, there is no "undo" button, and I'm rather proud of
> > the fact I can render drawings which resemble black and white photos
> > (mainstream artwork). I only recently decided to use some of those
> > techniques in the anthro artwork, so hopefully, it will increase the
> > appeal.
> >
> > I did the "send master copies/files to someone else to print" and
> > got fucked over hard. I had to threaten legal action and demanded
> > the retailer cease selling my material. Likewise, I got fucked over
> > by a comic company (never received money for a large graphic novel, a
> > stand-alone comic, or any funds from a benefit comic created to help
> > pay for my eye surgery). The chances of me letting someone else
> > handle that task are pretty much nil, I'd have to say.
> >
> > >
> > > It's not easy, but I think market research and better marketing is
> > in
> > > order, if what youre doing now isn't work too well, then continuing
> > to
> > > do exactly the same thing isn't going to work.
> >
> > But here's the catch; the furry stuff has been relegated to "hobby"
> > status, since I am able to make a good income from my mainstream work
> > without all the hassles and headaches encountered with dealing with
> > the internet. I'm an old-fashioned guy. I use modern technology if
> > I absolutely have to, but I prefer simpler ways. I like carburetors
> > on my bikes, I like a revolver in my hand, and I like drawing things
> > with pens and pencils. Maybe I'm a relic, but that's just the way
> > I'm wired.
> >
> > Market research sounds like an interesting concept, but how much
> > time does it take? I do have a fairly busy schedule, although I try
> > to get online and check the group as much as possible (though it's
> > not always a sure bet). Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks for the input and advice, though. Change is possible, I
> > know, but it's hard to squeeze in sometimes when schedules are
> > tight. Any ideas involving this topic would be welcome!
> >
> > --JMH
> >
>
Received on Fri Oct 03 2008 - 03:08:03 CDT

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