Okay, mods. I really think this conversation needs to be taken to private emails.
Thank you.
Kishma Danielle
----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas
To: SkunkworksAMA_at_yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 6:48 PM
Subject: [SkunkworksAMA] Re: Might be putting up some auctions soon...
--- In SkunkworksAMA_at_yahoogroups.com, "Andrew Greene" <blaze_at_...> wrote:
> So if it never comes up, what're you so worried about? And, I've known
> plenty of jews with big noses. Many of my relatives are jews with big
> noses. And what's with 'Homosexual proclivities'? Why not just say
> 'homosexual'? There IS such a thing as bisexuality, yanno.
>
>
I thought it was obvious from the context that "homosexual proclivities" means sexual arousal by members of the same gender, e. g. a woman attracted to a female bosom. (More below.)
>
> >> > As for people experimenting with homosexuality, I've yet to meet anyone
> who
> >> > has tried it that weren't already established homosexuals in the first
> >> > place.
> >>
> >> I've bumped into more than a few people who have tried it simply for the
> >> experience.
>
> >I have never tried homosexuality, considering that I don't like
> proctological examinations, and there's still AIDS out >there even if it's
> currently out of the news media. I'm sure there are more people out there
> who have had sex with the >family pet-if for no reason other than the family
> pet won't talk. If someone has sex with another of the same gender >without
> definite homosexual proclivities to begin with, the sex is either
> nonconsensual (rape or prostitution) or the >person is unable to find a sex
> partner of the opposite gender.
>
> First of all, by your reckoning, to be an established homosexual, you have
> to have homosexual sex, so how does one 'try it' and yet be an established
> homosexual, whatever the hell that means? Circular argument: see circular
> argument.
See above. I thought it was obvious that "established homosexual" is someone who KNOWS they have definite attractions to those of the same gender...even if they never had had sex with any. An example is a teenage girl I knew online who announced that she is a virgin Christian and a lesbian. Females give her sexual feelings, males don't. QED.
>
> Second of all, what does homosexuality have to do with proctological exams?
> Presumably you aren't against anal sex, or you wouldn't be on the SKUNKWORKS
> news group. Jim draws a bunch of it. Yeah, there's still AIDS out there,
> and gay sex is an increasingly bad way to get it. Most new AIDS infections
> are of heterosexuals. Gays got the news in the 80's, for the most part.
>
Well, I wouldn't want to be a "bottom" (yes, I know that's gay slang for the one who receives a penis in their anus, as opposed to "top" who puts their penis into an anus).
Even if your claim is true that heterosexuals are the ones who get the most new cases of AIDS (which I doubt), it's still a very prevalent disease among gay people. They were merely the first ones to get it en masse.
> Now you compare homosexuality to bestiality, which shows that you not only
> have personal issues, but you're also kind of weird. Perhaps you are a
> member of a religious organization or culture that condemns homosexuality.
> I have news for you. They probably wouldn't like the fact that you look at
> pictures of naked animal chicks as you masturbate, either.
>
I've known people who have had sex with animals, and truth be told, I fail to see how that is genuinely worse than homosexuality. (Actually, animals can consent in the sense that if you do anything to them that they don't want, they will fight back savagely.)
> Then you claim that non-gays that have gay sex do it nonconsensually, or are
> raped. Issues again. I've had sex with a number of bisexual men, and a few
> who were clearly straight.
Bisexual men who are clearly straight? Say again?
Why did they do it? Because either 1) they were
> very good friends, or 2) because sex feels good! Sex feels good, and
> bisexuality doubles your chances of getting a date. The idea that gays
> can't find partners of the opposite sex is kind of silly.
I've already mentioned the concept of proclivities. There are situations where groups of people who have no access to anyone of the opposite gender resort to homosexuality for release, or more often to degrade weaker members of the group. Prison rape, for example.
Before I came
> out, I dated heavily. I lived with two women, concurrently. I lived, at one
> point, with two women and another man in a foursome. It was
> overcompensation on my part, a common response to discovering that one is
> gay, but being unable to admit it to one's self. Looking back, my bisexual
> phase was a LOT of fun. I've had several long-term boyfriends, and I've
> settled down with the current one, who can be seen on my FA page, for those
> of you who are curious.
>
Well, you obviously have attraction to other males, otherwise you would have nothing to "come out" with.
> In closing, let me point out that if homosexuality is so uncommon, why is so
> much straight porn focused on gay acts? When they show a blowjob, you get
> extreme close-ups of cocksucking, with lots of cock and lots of mouth. They
> don't concentrate on the actor's expression. They don't generally film it
> from his point of view. It's all cock, and all mouth. Anal sex in porn is
> just as bad, lots of close-ups of cock plunging into ass, gaping ass,
> cum-splashed ass and huge cocks in close-up. Why all the lesbian stuff?
Even close up, it's generally obvious whether the mouth is that of a male or female.
Long Tom.
Received on Fri May 14 2010 - 22:36:53 CDT