Re: [SkunkworksAMA] Re: question

From: Larry Barron <knot_disclosed_at_yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:54:47 -0700 (PDT)


OK, I AM assuming that this IS the anthropomorphic world…
They do have a space like ours?
They do have a space program?
They do have at least one dead space craft floating in space
like ours? (Say a space station that has been abandoned or that something went
wrong kind of like Apollo 13 only they did NOT make it back?) you also have to
assume that in this space craft there is a supply of water in a container that
CAN withstand the sudden introduction of a n ear total vacuum by say a relatively
fast moving particle (either space debris or a meteorite) puncturing the pressurized
container that is the housing unit that contains the water container? THEN you
have to also assume that it is in the relative cold of space sounding earth (or
whatever they call there planet). Then you have to assume that during the time
it stays in a stable orbit what happens to the empty half?
The water will be in a rather cold frozen state, and it will
be in a container that is NOT exposed to a near total vacuum but rather an
oxygen rich atmosphere (nearly pure oxygen) of approximately 5psi or slightly greater
an that there would be only micro gravity and thus no bottom and top for crud
only the sides and the middle which would mean there would only be some equilibrium
of some sort?
 
 
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> From: Rick Pikul <chakatfirepaw_at_gmail.com>
>To: SkunkworksAMA_at_yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 4:16 PM
>Subject: Re: [SkunkworksAMA] Re: question
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>On Wednesday 19 June 2013 15:01, Larry Barron wrote:
>> OK, But what if the watter if frozen (like in the cold of space) and the
>> glass is designes to hold the pressure of the expanding watter/gas (NOTE
>> ITS NOT AIR! Only oxygen & hydrogen as AIR is MOSTLY nitrogen) as in a dead
>> space ship?
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>Presuming that the glass and the ice are sufficiently strong to withstand the
>pressure difference and that the shape of the glass will prevent the ice from
>sliding further into the glass:
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>It depends on the temperature.
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>If the temperature is low enough that the ice will not melt then some of the
>ice will sublimate into the vacuum, soon reaching an equilibrium. Eventually
>the process of sublimation from the atmospheric side will result in the ice
>suffering a structural failure.
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>If it is warm enough for the ice to melt then the ice plug will slowly slip
>down into the glass as the edges melt. Vapor in the lower cavity will
>condense out as the volume is reduced as the pressure goes above the vapor
>pressure.
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>Chakat Firepaw - Inventor & Scientist (Mad)
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